But then something awful happened: I had an unwanted intrusive thought about God/Jesus, a REALLY bad one, and worse, a visual one, I might be traumatized, it came out of nowhere, in the worst timing possible. I constantly get intrusive thoughts about Jesus' miracles not being done by the Holy Spirit, essentially the Pharisees' blasphemy against the Spirit but these thoughts don't come willingly. Around 15/16 I became extremely doubtful and lost in my head and I didnt know who I was. Youre trying hard to believe and follow God, but you get these intrusive, OCD-type blasphemous thoughts. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not simply saying something bad about the Holy Spirit (or about anything else, for that matter), but is a persistent rejection of the convicting work of the Spirit, whose job it is to expose our sin and lead us to accept Christ. Oh thank you! It is impossible to live like this. There are a few verses we can use to understand this phenomenon and help you reduce your fears. over the next few weeks i was hearing voices again, i think its gonna take more thasn that if Jesus is willing to heal me of this. Thats progress. For example, the little girl who is growing up in a severely abusive home feels endangered and powerless (like the person with OCD). You belong here. Yes, there are different methods ERP, Biblical imaging, direct mockery but above and beyond these methods we must remember that God is kindly and compassionately uniting with us in our efforts to get better. I think theres different fazes to this . In another post, I describe in detail how we can use a four-step process to meet, greet, label and eat our intrusive thoughts (read the article to understand what Im talking about)! Where do they fit into the discussion? One day during this meeting, the mail clerk brought him a lavender envelope sealed with an ornate wax seal and bound with elegant ribbons. We all love God and all we want is to think right of Him with conflicting thoughts. I'm crying right now.. OCD is often called the hidden disease because we are always ashamed or scared to tell anyone about it. How can I know God still loves and cares for me? This terrified me too. I dont know why this happens, but its semi-common and certainly deserves further investigation. John 6:44 says that no one comes to Christ unless the Father draws them. Who can forgive sins but God alone?. I remembered a verse that said "God is not the author of confusion" and since the Bible was confusing to me, I came to the conclusion He didn't write it. Hi Italia, I can relate to the desire to go to camp or various classes that will bring spiritual accountability, but please take care. Treat the thoughts like unimportant static. Please remember that God really loves you and Jesus knows your heart. . The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you (John 14:16-17). They were far more privileged than you and I in their ability to witness miracles and hear the words of Jesus. I have always believed in Jesus and loved the comfort he brought me. I'm not the antichrist! And eventually it led to me saying blasphemous stuff ! We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your apparent assent happened because of intense mental strain. Also my anxiety, every time its like my anxiety/fear kicks in when I talk to Jesus , my head would then go somewhere else like to the evil one and then Id try shaking my head or confess to Jesus and tell Jesus Christ I am only praying to you and no one else I am so sorry and I hate this that I cant just talk to you without my head wondering off please forgive me, it has gotten to the point where there is trying to be more doubt in many areas, but I know God in heaven is all powerful. D. A. Carson says such people are "thoughtfully, willfully, and self-consciously rejecting the work of the Spirit." 1 Their blasphemy is to deny the Spirit's Christians can commit all kinds of sin, but what marks a Christian is that they dont settle in long term. He is a good good Father,who loves His children and those who seek Him and His righteousness.Although the thoughts come and go,atleast now I know that they are just thoughts !! But thought-action fusion pushes the boundaries. I see others have gone through this, I dont want to go to hell either, I remember the love of God and the feelings of serving him only and still do and will always do. I feel like I thought to many bad things. I have gone through stages in my life where I have gotten so exhausted from it that I would stop praying for some period of time because I thought I was dammed anyway, the thoughts wouldn't come but because I belong to the father my spirit would desire that closeness with God and I would put more emphasis on my relationship with Christ and once I did the intrusive thoughts would becoming back in some form or fashion. Which is really bad. It ministered to my soul. I think I'm a bad person. Even the possibility of the 'unforgivable sin" until I read this article and realized that I wasn't alone. Thank you very much, with all the sincerity in the world. I am so desperate, I had those too. A trick I tried was to tell my brain, "why can't you be wittier than that!" It will get better! Take life and your relationship with God 1 day at a time and sometimes 1 hour at a time. But I want the same feeling of loving God, I do love him and it feels weird , I feel numb , I want the same desire of serving the True Living God in heaven, and like reopening my heart, mind and soul . Therefore, any guilty feelings that you have after this point about the past is considered false guilt. Thus, if the mind "slips" I get it doing what I'm doing all the time. And thank you for all that you're doing, and thank you in advance! You see that Im going back and forth between being too intense and then feeling numb and exhausted. For example: Suzy, you have a recurring blasphemous thought that Chemosh is only a stone idol, is that right?, Yes, thats right. When I pray these thoughts keep coming and it's hard to pray because I feel like I am not being honest. God will continue to work on your behalf! I wanted a girlfriend, but I was too shy. One more text, Luke 12:10: And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. Over the span of my ministry there have been several people probably a lot more people dont come forward, but these came forward who came to me deeply convinced they had committed the sin against the Holy Spirit and were therefore beyond forgiveness. Many of the things that you've posted here are what I've been going through for the past few months. Let me summarize why this sin is unforgivable. Hi.. what if i thought of and imagined many times about having sex with the evil Can you help me with this? That is not me or even my deepest desire. Personally, I am highly suspect of people who go around prophesying over others. Now, it seems to me that, in helping those people deal with what they are saying, we need to put the statement blaspheming the Spirit cannot be forgiven alongside the many statements like whosoever believes on the Lord Jesus will be saved not whosoever believes, if they havent done a few other things., For example, Acts 16:31: Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved. Paul didnt ask the jailor, Now, have you ever blasphemed against the Spirit of God? He just said, If you believe, you will be saved. In John 6:40, Jesus said, This is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.. Therefore, you dont have to worry about committing this sin. Having negative or blasphemous thoughts against God does not always mean there is something wrong with you. Your so-called "blasphemous thoughts" are questions or doubts about your faith community's doctrines, Your thoughts are criticisms of the way your faith community operates or treats people, Your thoughts are related to logic or "making sense", Your blasphemous thoughts are bizarre, repetitive, and illogical, Your thoughts are not a direct question or criticism of any part of the spiritual experience but feel more like "attacks" against God, You have a history of being an overly-positive super-Christian, You typically hold back or stuff down your emotions, particularly in your relationship with God, You find yourself going through very difficult times and are struggling to maintain your emotional faade, You already have a balanced relationship with God that includes the ability to voice your feelings, Your thoughts against God are illogical and unrelated to any past traumas or present challenges in your life, Projection of self as God or thoughts of receiving worship, Inappropriate sexual thoughts about God or other religious figures, Having an abusive thought against God MEANS you believe that thought, Thinking something sacrilegious MEANS you are apostate or damned, Getting random thoughts that you might be praying to yourself MEANS you are prideful and believe you are God, Repeating verses a certain number of times, Ruminating on the event to try to figure out if your blasphemous thought was genuine, Seeking reassurance from a religious leader that you are not damned and have not committed the unpardonable sin, Giving in charity, making personal sacrifices, or making pacts with God, His own people, that is, those who knew Jesus, His life, and the works He had done claimed He was out of His mind.. My flesh can never be made perfect. When we rise from our knees, we do so in complete freedom, because He has graciously cast our sins into the depths of the sea. They bullied. Even when I am reading the Bible I will still feel doubts or questions of him. It feels like I am constantly walking on a thin rope. Now the thoughts still come, but i fell numb, like I lost the presence of God and I expect the bad feeling to come or anything at all, but it's just a big nothing. I dont know what you guys call me when Im not here, but its okay if you refer to me from now on as His Magnificence., Some time later, President Truman worked with the UN to support the importation of 100,000 Jews into Palestine. May our Lord Jesus help us in this fight. It would be other thoughts like Gods not real or that I dont love/love God and that I'm lying to myself. I am so grateful for this article. It's not your job to save you. I have been struggling with intrusive thoughts after I feared the unpardonable sin for three months now. I'm confused too. Hey Ive been having these thoughts for some time now and at church I accidentally said I reject. Ever since then I have struggled against these horrible blasphemous thoughts. May you be blessed today and each day. Be blessed! You could just say because Jesus said so but I think there is more to the answer. Thank you for what youre doing in my life already! NOW AGE 65 HAVE GONE TO MANY COUNSELORS AND IN FEAR OF DEMON POSSESSIONS. I have peace in the knowledge that I am forgiven fully and God knows my true heart. Its really frustrating. To make story short I ended up in the hospital for some time and had decided that because my believe of god has always been strong I will let myself be admitted to hospital because he will rescue me and he did. Would love to have you in our group! No. Thank you for sharing your experience. hey,recently ive been having really really evil thoughts about Jesus which are sexual i feel shame explaining but i just need help,they include Jesus doing something to me that is sexual and a crime i think you get the idea and now that i have thought about jt its like its in my brain now and its labelled if you know what i mean(its the R word and i have so much shame and guilt i jusr need help i hate myself) its like it wont go thats now what i think of Jesus even though it definitely not i pray all the time asking for help and i read my Bible and they just come back ,im still young and ive never had a mental illness and im scared that these are my thoughts because its like i encourage them but i dont want to i dont want to label Jesus like that i Love him and hes my saviour im just scared im an evil person that doesnt deserve Gods love at all Thank you for the article aswell it was really helpful, Hey,God understands and loves you he will get you through this keep having faith and PRAY PRAY PRAY, Thank you so much I have been trying to find answers on why I have been having blasphemous thoughts in my head and when I found this article it gave me all the answers to my Question thank you so much, Hello jaimie, please help I accidentally blasphemed Jesus, so basically a blasphemous thought came into my head saying something really bad to Jesus and Holy Spirit and my family, so I try to ignore it and praise Jesus I know this sounds weird but the thought was the opposite of this I want Jesus to go to heaven I accidentally said the opposite (I think you may know what I accidentally said) (the blasphemous thought) I freaked out and asked for forgiveness will god forgive me? But, when I was reading about the Chemosh story, those intrusive thoughts came. I have been enslaved to OCD for almost my while life. The experience of numbness and depersonalization is also common to people with PTSD who have experienced prolonged periods of trauma. I know that I believe in God. And now they are back with a different form the form that i dont wanna live anymore but not to kill myself. It all started when I read the chapter in Matthew where our Lord Jesus said that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. It felt like I willfully kept the thoughts going on purpose when most likely it was nothing but intrusive thoughts and urges. When we get the idea that we are bigger and more powerful than God, it may be the case that we think our own mistakes can override the promises. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So here is my take on this. How does this relate to mental blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? People naturally think about things that offend them. I always have dreams with something to do with sexual sin with a woman besides my wife. God doesnt mind us wondering about if things are real or fake. Remember the Holy Spirit lives in you and he will keep you from falling into this sin. When the disciples came, it was for worldly honor and position. Honeybees teach us that the best response is to be very still and not respond. What Ive seen sometimes is that people with scrupulosity, who are already feeling like they never do enough, get stressed out to the point of feeling numb; then, to reassure themselves that theres still some spiritual passion inside, they will spur themselves on at a religious camp meeting, Bible school, or retreat. I am so scared. This might be confusing. Heres the passage from Mark: Then the multitude came together again,so that they could not so much as eat bread. Don't feel anything. She came back here, had sex with me again, and left to go to Bible college. God will forgive. As slaves, who is responsible? What about the verses on blaspheming the Holy Spirit? This forum is designed to be like Christian Advice, only for recovery type of issues. Don't dwell on your past and don't worry about your future. Not let them bother me as much knowing that it is not my fault. To learn more about his ministry please visit clarencehaynes.com. The IOCDF (International OCD Foundation) has a recent emphasis on religious OCD, and they have an online group that meets I think once or twice per month. Everything feels out of order, uncertain, terrifying. When one comes into my head I try to make it into a sentence that is not blasphemous. Im very lost. Despite their wrong doings, God still forgave them, cleansed them, and used them. And if you get bored of one, itll morph into a different form to make sure it maintains your attention. We arent saying that Chemosh isnt real. ", I guess that is my compulsion. I have been struggling with this for a long time but was able to just ignore most of the attacks for years. Because He sees the real you. but you need to ignore it. Thanks for being interested in helping others who struggle. I thought I was alone and that I could not discuss these feelings with anyone, not even a priest. I felt at peace, but something in me got kind of curious. I've been feeling depressed for some years, and backsliding, unfortunately. I never felt safe. Eventually, it listened and I'm out of that groove now, and know when to take "phrases and sayings" or associations / connotations with a dose of good humour. There is a sense in which Christians obtain all the riches and glory and knowledge and truth of the whole universe the moment we receive Christ into our hearts. She ended up moving away. Hi! Growing up on Catholic school (elementary school until high school), we learn to believe in God and his kindness. I hope my reply helps. I have no clue WHY this happens, but Ive talked to others who have thoughts that coincide with certain sounds, movements, or breathing patterns. Its not scriptural what so ever. unfortunately I have not and I'm kinda worried I'm not sure whether this is ocd or schizophrenia but i just wanna stop having intrusive negative unwanted thoughts and forget i had them and be good. They are really annoying. i forgot about this for many years. Nothing will ever snatch us from our Father's hand. How this is a deliberate, final searing act of defiance and rejection so great, its as if angels in heaven denied the Holy Spirit; that is how deliberate and severe this act is. I sincerely need help please. But I'm afraid the reason I want to do that is because of selfish/intellectual/interested in the benefits reasons. You have accepted Christ, so you will be part of the Kingdom of God when your time is up. We come, and He changes us. Okay so I got demons casted out of me and for the most part that helped the thoughts. Its like the thought was there and I let it in. It almost feels like I might be thinking them on purpose but I dont know if I am. I have had unwanted blasphemous thoughts against the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit, when I love the Lord with all my heart and walk with Him. So I was laying in bed trying to sleep and this demon put a partial thought into my brain about the Holy Spirit which I finished, most likely due to OCD about always finishing partial thoughts (this has been one source of many of my bad thoughts). The following is a very brief introduction to blasphemy and an attempt to present the questions that arise once one is faced with the possibility of crossing this line. Ironically, the more anxious one is to please God, the more severe the affliction. Mockery is a powerful and often fast-acting tool against intrusive thoughts, but may not be helpful to you in the very beginning when you are still getting the hang of exposure. What do I do? This can do much to break OCDs insistence on absolutes. I hate these thoughts , i just want to be close to feeling the love of Jesus Christ the passion of serving him, and the love and everything ! It would be hard for me to say, because everyone is unique! I'm struggling with these thoughts and feelings and I ask for forgiveness but I don't know if I'm asking for the right reasons. I mean, I can see how what youre saying is true, but it still gives me a lot of anxiety!, And what does that anxiety make you want to do?, I feel the need to blow air out of my mouth to expel the bad thought, and verbalize that Chemosh is Lord., So these are your compulsions, right? Your eternal life is safe with God despite the annoying blasphemous thoughts, feelings and urges. None of these "refutations" against Jesus being divine make any sense but they persist in my head anyway. But through all this, God never leaves our side. For me its not just about the Holy Spirit but also about denying or rejecting God/Christ, worshipping satan, killing myself and so on. belong. I frequently experience what you referred to as numbness, dead emotions, and depersonalization when I am obsessing or when an intrusive thought materializes all of which contributes to the sense of not living at all but rather just existing. What is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? We grow up knowing that large flying insects like bees, wasps, and hornets can sting. More advantageous. Do you see yourself as dangerous and somehow more powerful than God? Afterwards, my head will feel tight after what seems like forever to fight these thoughts. Hi Amy, Please dont feel bad about telling your parents. I will pray for you and ask that you pray for me. Jaimie. You are going to be okay even though it doesn't feel like it. Fellowship is an irreplaceable means of grace in the Christian life and offers us two priceless joys: receiving Gods grace through the helping words of others and giving his grace to others through our own. They register anonymous statistical data on for example how many times the video is displayed and what settings are used for playback.No sensitive data is collected unless you log in to your google account, in that case your choices are linked with your account, for example if you click like on a video. And thankfully, its something you can fix. Resist the thoughts of blasphemy by speaking Gods word. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dQlEl85ols, {"email":"Email address invalid","url":"Website address invalid","required":"Required field missing"}. However, suppose we allow our thoughts to slip into blasphemous thoughts. tqb-impression-2045-tqb-user-60f57081ee1b65_56201664, tqb-impression-2045-tqb-user-60f570f671e497_32882585, tqb-impression-2189-tqb-user-60f57080d8efc3_26603292, tqb-impression-2189-tqb-user-60f570a35906b8_59176067, tqb-impression-2341-tqb-user-60f5708568cea4_21812820, tqb-impression-2924-tqb-user-60f570d6a0d8d6_62640332, tqb-impression-2924-tqb-user-60f57106889ba2_61578013, tqb-impression-3075-tqb-user-60f570e23bf777_45533188, tqb-impression-3123-tqb-user-60f570750f80f8_87645952. Just like mentioned in the bible about the eagles. But I remember what God told me. I ended up in a state of vulnerability and I ended up in changing my beliefs because someone had presented me with some facts. How Shall We Live in Light of This Possibility? After that, he read about self-control, and he cut down to eating only a scanty amount of food each day a piece of fruit, a few nuts. I spoke to my Pastor and I was given the explanation for what the unpardonable sin really is. These are common themes in religious OCD. When I first heard of Exposure Therapy I was admittedly terrified of the idea.. Please pray for me. This can help you differentiate between your own thoughts and the intrusive thoughts of OCD. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. I'm happy I searched this topic and found your article. And many of us know from experience that these stings hurt. Praying for you. I know that this isnt actually blaspheming the Holy Spirit as it is not a foreign or passive thought, it has to be the most deliberate and clear conscious action. What were they doing, thinking, or saying that provoked such a response? Our role when our feelings are not behaving is to just push through by faith. Thanks. He is already beside you with arms open wide, and He will carry you through the obsessions, compulsions, and addictive tendencies that you and all of us in the OCD community struggle with. This may be numbness of the emotions, an inability to feel the heart or soul, lack of motivation, or a sense of being disconnected from the body (called depersonalization). I was under attack with these thoughts regarding the unpardonable sin recently, and they freaked me out. Oooh, I really wish I could speak/write in Spanish. If you do that you will never blaspheme the Holy Spirit. I force myself to go to church and Bible studies and Sunday school but all these trigger the intrusive thoughts or bring back my obsessions to the forefront of my mind. I met a muslim person and always thought as long as people respect each others religions theres no problems. The first trick is helpful at any stage of progress, but the second trick will probably only be helpful to those who are at more advanced stages in overcoming scrupulosity. This means that He can understand our intentions way better than we can. I want to be solidified in my faith. This is not a spiritual thing, this is a brain thing. Fighting back against blasphemous thoughts is a sure-fire way to get yourself stuck in an endless loop of self-analysis, doubt, and ever-rising anxiety. Not in any single case. ButJesus kept silent. Do you have a tip I could use? Does blasphemous thoughts also apply to other gods as well?