The astounding details of his life are well-recorded in books like The House at Diamond Hill [1] He inherited property from his . Cherokee Vann. Chief Joseph Vann Family Tree Check All Members List Old Master had some kind of business in Fort Smith, I think cause he used to ride into dat town about every day on his horse. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. chief joseph vann family tree. Cornelius Neely Nave was a grandson of Talaka Vann, a slave owned by Joseph Vann in Webbers Falls. Joseph, 11 years old, was in the room when his father, James, was murdered, in Buffingtons Tavern in 1809 near the site of the family-owned ferry. After de War was over, Old Master tell me I am free but he will look out after me cause I am just a little negro and I ain't got no sense. I wore a stripedy shirt till I was about 11 years old and den one day while we was down in the Choctaw Country old Mistress see me and nearly fall off her horse. There was a bugler and someone called the dances. The Vanns were a prolific family who reused many names, so later in life he was referred to as "Rich Joe." He was one of eight children born to his father's nine wives. Joseph William Vann : Family tree by jwj424 - Geneanet Dat just about lasted em through until dey died, I reckon. Young Master Vann never very hard on us and he never whupped us, and old Mistress was a widow woman and a good Christian and always kind. That was sort of vault, where the family valuables was kept. 14, On his extensive plantation some 800 acres were under cultivation. She was weavin when the case came up so quick, missus Jennie put her in her own bed and took care of her. We had home-made wooden beds wid rope springs, and de little ones slept on trundle beds dat was home made too. A Scottish trader came to Cherokee Territory in 1755, married Wai-Li and became a licensed trader-interpreter for the Queen of England. Anna Sophia Vann 1803-1874. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. When father was young he would go hunting the fox with his master, and fishing in the streams for the big fish. Chief James Clement Vann family tree Parents John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann 1735 - 1815 Wahli Wa-wli Aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan 1751 - 1815 Spouse (s) After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. And dishes, they had rows and rows of china dishes; big blue platters that would hold a whole turkey. De brothers was Sam and Eli. 61 (Spring, 1983). The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. Source: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm [3] Lucy Walker steamboat disaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster [1]. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. My mother died when I'se small and my father married Delia Vann. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. I sure did love her. All the slaves lived in a log house. Dey called young Mr. Joe "Little Joe Vann" even after he was grown on account of when he was a little boy before his pappy was killed. Duwa'li 'John' Bowles, Sr., Principal Chief - Geni 1 1 1 2 2 3 1 4. The low class work in the fields. Single girls waited on the tables in the big house. Chief Vann House Courtesy of Atlanta History Center. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. I sure did love her. Helizikinopo was born in 1715, in Pennsylvania, Somerset, Pennsylvania, United States. I slept on a sliding bed. Had sacks and sacks of money. Chief James Clement Vann Bio. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. McLoughlin, William, Cherokee Renascence in the New Republic, Princeton University Press, (1986), ISBN 0691047413. There was a big church. My mother was seamstress. We had meat, bread, rice, potatoes and plenty of fish and chicken. Eventually the Cherokee council granted Joseph the inheritance in line with his father's wish; this included 2,000 acres (8.1 km2) of land, trading posts, river ferries, and the Vann House in Spring Place, Georgia. Robert Hicks ("Who went to live with the Indians") was born 1720 in Albermarle, Sussex, Virginia. My mammy was a Cherokee slave, and talked it good. Sometime Young Master Joe and the other boys give me a piece of money and say I worked for it, and I reckon I did for I have to cook five or six times a day. I dunno her other name. I thought it was mighty big and fine. They had no children. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. We left de furniture and only took grub and tools and bedding and clothes, cause they wasn't very big wagons and was only single-yoke. After supper the colored folks would get together and talk, and sing, and dance. Joseph Vann, Principal Chief was born on month day 1798, at birth place, to James Ti-ka-lo-hi "Crazy" Clement Vann and Nancy 'Nannie' Vann (born Brown). They had fine furniture that Marster Vann had brought home in a steamboat from far away. Then he hide in the bushes along the creek and got away. I always think of my old Master as de one dat freed me, and anyways Abraham Lincoln and none of his North people didn't look after me and buy my crop right after I was free like old Master did. Cal Robertson was eighty-nine years old when I married him forty years ago, right on this porch. When meal time come, someone ring that bell and all the slaves know its time to eat and stop their work. andrea riseborough partner tom burke; lancaster youth field hockey Joseph Vann - New Georgia Encyclopedia Indians made us keep our master's name. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the Negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to old Master Joe. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. Dat was one poor negro dat never go away to de North and I was sorry for him cause I know he must have had a mean master, but none of us Sheppard negroes, I mean the grown ones, tried to get away. Marster never whipped no one. Chief Joseph David VANN 1763-1844 - Ancestry They taken some of their slaves with them. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. Born just after the end of the Cherokee War, he grew up in turbulent times. Some of the Indian families was Joe Dirt Eater, Six Killer (some of the Six Killers live a few miles SE of Afton at this time, 1938), Chewey Noi, and Gus Buffington. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evenings and make wooden spoons out of maple. He never seen them neither. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. One of the Six Killer women was mighty good to us and we called her "mammy", that a long time after my mammy die though. I never did see my daddy excepting when I was a baby and I only know what my mammy told me about him. We stayed here till everything got fixed up, then we went back to Mexico. Her master was white, but he had married into de Nation and so she got a freedmen's allotment too. After being evicted from his father's mansion home "Diamond Hill" in 1834, Joseph moved his large family (he had two wives) and business operations to Tennessee, where he established a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of Ooltewah Creek that became the center of a settlement called Vann's Town (later the site of Harrison, Tennessee). Dere was a sister named Patsy; she died at Wagoner, Oklahoma. https://web.archive.org/web/20071026072208/http://www.cherokeebyblo https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5977809/joseph-vann, Webbers Falls, Muskogee County, Oklahoma, United States of America. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Vann. Chief James Clement Vann married Mary Margaret "Peggy" Scott and had 14 children. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. We got letters all the time form Indians back in the territory. They got on the horses behind the men and went off. Joseph Vann was born February 11, 1798 near Springplace in the Cherokee Nation (now Georgia) the son of James Vann and Nancy Brown. After a bloody fracas in 1834, Colonel W. N. Bishop established his brother, Absolom Bishop, on the premises and Joseph Vann with his family was driven out to seek shelter over the state line in Tennessee. but it sunk and him and old Master died. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. I never would hear much about the war that my father was in, but I know he fought for the North. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. Dey tole me some of dem was bad on negroes but I never did see none of dem night riding like some say dey did. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. Pappa named Charley Nave; mamma's name was Mary Vann before she marry and her papa was Talaka Vann, one of Joe Vann's slave down around Webber's Falls. Them Pins was after Master all de time for a while at de first of de War, and he was afraid to ride into Ft. Smith much. . Marster had a little race horse called "Black Hock" She was all jet black, excepting three white feet and her stump of a tail. We put all the bed clothes on its back. My aunt done de carding and spinning and my mammy done de weaving and cutting and sewing , and my pappy could make cowhide shoes wid wooden pegs. I don't know what he done after that. John Trader U Wa Ni Vann 1690-1770 - Ancestry But about the home--it was a double-room log house with a cooling-off space between the rooms, all covered with a roof, but no porch, and the beds was made of planks, the table of pine boards, and there was never enough boxes for the chairs so the littlest children eat out of a tin pan off the floor. Bornin Cherokee Nationon 27 Aug 1767to Joseph Vannand War-Li(MaryPolly) Cherokee-Clan-Blind-Savannah. They'd clap their hands and holler. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. Old mistress was small and mighty pretty too, and she was only half Cherokee. I eat from a big pan set on the floor---there was no chairs--and I slept in a trundle bed that was pushed under the big bed in the daytime. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouoldn't let his house slaves to with no common dress out. Its massive walls and hand-carved woodwork show excellent workmanship, and its unique hanging staircase is a marvel that piques the interest of many visitors. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. It had no windows, but it had a wood floor that was kept clean with plenty of brushings, and a fireplace where mammy'd cook the turnip greens and peas and corn--I still likes the cornbread with fingerprints baked on it like in the old days when it was cooked on a skillet over the hot wood ashes. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. After everything quiet down and everything was just right, we come back to territory second time. Joseph William II Vann 1810-1854. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. He had apparently been attending the horse races at Louisville, KY. Vann, Joseph H., Cherokee Rose: On Rivers of Golden Tears, 1st Books Library (2001), ISBN 0-75965-139-6. James Vann, Chief 1809 Nancy Ann Timberlake Brown 1780-1850 Spouses and children Married, Georgia., USA, to Elizabeth Catherine Rowe 1798- with Living Vann Clarinda Rebecca Vann ca 1817- Delia Vann 1834- James Vann Mary Frances Vann 1825-1923 Siblings Mary Vann 1795-1864 Joseph Rich Joe Vann 1798-1844 Half-siblings 1) Chief Doublehead (a rival of James Vann) 2) John Foreman a) Elizabeth Foreman m. John Elliott (white) 3) James Vann a) Sally Vann m. Evan Nicholson (white) / James Lamar (white) b.1797 F)Dawnee, described by the Moravian missionaries as a poor full blood woman, who was often drunk.She had at least 2 and maybe 3 husbands: 1) James Vann In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. Meanwhile, the Cherokees had presented their news of the slave revolt to the Cherokee National Council at the capital, Tahlequah, and gained approval for a Cherokee Militia unit to pursue, arrest, and deliver the fugitive slaves to Fort Gibson. When crop was laid by de slaves jest work round at dis and dat and keep tol'able busy. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like wed been, for our feed and clothes. Chief married Helizikinopo Ounaconoa cornstalk (born Moytoy). He would start at de crack of daylight and not git home till way after dark. My missus name was Doublehead before she married Jim Vann. Below New Albany, the vessel blew up when one or more boilers blew up, killing the majority of the passengers and among them the owner and captain. My marster and missus buried their money and valuables everywhere. Mammy was the house girl and she weaved the cloth and my Aunt Tilda dyed the cloth with indigo, leaving her hands blue looking most of the time. Joseph David Vann in MyHeritage family trees (Chamblin Web Site) view all 15 Immediate Family Lamilla Dawn Vann wife Martha Garner daughter Permelia (Vann) Barfield Sansom daughter Millie Ann (Vann) Hodges daughter David Vann son Paul David Vann son John Joseph Vann, "The Interpreter" father Elizabeth Betsy Vann mother Mary Pruitt sister After several days of pursuit, the Indians caught up with the escaped slaves and a heated battle inflicted casualties on both sides. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder, I don't know, but that was before my time. He was a multi-millionaire and handsome. Once they catch a catfish most as big as a man; that fish had eggs big as hen eggs, and he made a feast for twenty-five Indians on the fishing party. The Chief Vann House, built between 1804 and 1806 by the Cherokee leader James Vann, is called the "Showplace of the Cherokee Nation ." It is located at the intersection of U.S. Highway 76 and Georgia 225 in Murray County, on the outskirts of Chatsworth in northwest Georgia. Brother of Ca-lieu-cah Mary Vann Seneca Chism was my father. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I ain't had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. I was born after the War, about 1868, and what I know 'bout slave times is what my pappa told me, and maybe that not be very much. All the Vann marsters was good looking. All my children was from the first marriage: Thomas, Dora, Charley, Marie, Opal, William, Arthur, Margaret, Thadral and Hubbard. We never put on de shoes until about late November when de front begin to hit regular and split our feet up, and den when it git good and cold and de crop all gathered in anyways, they is nothing to do 'cepting hog killing and a lot of wood chopping and you don't get cold doing dem two things. Pappy was the shoe-maker and he used wooden pegs of maple to fashion the shoes. I'se proud anyway of my Vann name. I'm goin' give Lucy this black mare. When Marster Jim and Missus Jennie went away, the slaves would have a big dance in the arbor. No nails in none of dem nor in de chairs and tables. They was Cherokee Indians. When they get it they take it back to their cabin. Betty Robertson's father worked aboard Joseph Vann's steamboat, Lucy Walker. Dey would come up in a bunch of about nine men on horses and look at all our passes, and if a negro didn't have no pass dey wore him out good and made him go home. Please join us. "Rich Joe" owned a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of the Ooltewah Creek. He had black eyes and mustache but his hair was iron gray, and everybody like him because he was so good natured and kind. We patted her grave and kissed the ground telling her goodbye. Master give me over to de National Freedmen's bureau and I was bound out to a Cherokee woman name Lizzie McGee. They wanted everybody to know we was Marster Vann's slaves. He located at Webbers Falls on the Arkansas River and operated a line of steamboats on the Arkansas, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers. The most terrible thing that ever happen was when the Lucy Walker busted and Joe got blew up. My husband didn't give me nothing. I joined the Catholic church after the war. Cynthia Ann Vann 1812-1885. Uncle Joe tell us all to lay low and work hard and nobody'd bother us and he would look after us. My mother saw it but the colored chillun' couldn't. Our marshal made us all sign up like this; who are you, where you come from, where you go to. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. Chief Vann Family Tree View Complete Tree - FamilyTreeX It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. A few days later they caught up with the slaves, still in Indian Territory. Others were returned to their owners. Us slaves lived in log cabins dat only had one room and no windows so we kept de doors open most of de time. He used to take us to where Hyge Park is and we'd all go fishin'. There wasn't nothing left. I'd like to go where we used to have picnics down below Webbers Falls. Chief Cheakoneska Otterlifter John Trader Vann - Ancestry He passed away on 4 Apr 1770 in Bertie, North Carolina, United States. Because mamma was sick then he brought her sister Sucky Pea and her husband, Charley Pea, to help around wid him. That was where all the food was kept. Everybody, white folks and colored folks, having a good time. This CHEROKEE index was pre-built so it loads quickly. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Falls. He courted a girl named Sally. Robin Vann and Unknown 14 year old in 1809 Vann less. Excepting master and mistress, couldn't nobody put things in there but her. Son of Di-Ga-Lo-Hi 'James' "Crazy Chief Vann and Go-sa-du-i-sga Nancy Timberlake Florence Smith was my first wife and Ida Vann the second. My mother was seamstress. When the war come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. Yes Lord, it was, havy mercy on me yes. Everything was cheap. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. That meant she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. Sometimes just white folks danced; sometimes just the black folks. Perdue, Theda, "The Conflict Within: The Cherokee Power Structure and Removal," Georgia Historical Quarterly, 73 (Fall, 1989), pp. I've seen em. Mammy died in Texas, and when we left Rusk County after the Civil War, pappy took us children to the graveyard. I been a good Christian ever since I was baptized, but I keep a little charm here on my neck anyways to keep me from having the nose bleed. Everything was stripedy cause Mammy like to make it fancy. Many Creeks joined the Cherokee searchers. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. When the war broke out, lots of Indians mustered up and went out of the territory. Used to go up and down the river in his steamboat. Clement married the widowed Wah-li. It was "Don't Call the Roll, Jesus Because I'm Coming Home." He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. I always pick a whole passel of muscadines for old Master and he make up sour wine, and dat helps out when we git the bowel complaint from eating dat fresh pork. I've heard em tell of rich Joe Vann. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. Dere come six children; Charley, Alec, Laura, Harry Richard and Jeffy, who waS named after Jefferson Davis. We didn't suffer, we had plenty to eat. James Vann was a powerful chief in the Cherokee Nation and had several other wives and children. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant' stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like we'd been for our feed, an clothes. An Important Southern Rifle by Cherokee Gunsmith James Vann Black Hock was awful attached to the kitchen. James (Chief of Vann's Old Town) Vann 1767-1809 - Ancestry Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away. Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. The married folks lived in little houses and there was big long houses for all the single men. People all a visitin'. Cal Robertson was eighty-nine years old when I married him forty years age, right on this porch. 33, No. Its got a buokeys and a lead bullet in it. I had two brothers, Silas and George, dat belong to Mr. George Holt in Webber's falls town. When we git to Fort Gibson they was a lot of Negroes there, and they had a camp meeting and I was baptised. Women came in satin dresses, all dressd up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. After the Removal, Joseph Vann was chosen the first Assistant Chief of the united Cherokee Nation under the new 1839 Constitution that was created in Indian Territory (Oklahoma), serving with Principal Chief John Ross. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. chief joseph vann family tree - nextchainventures.com The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. We git three or four crops of different things out of dat farm every ear, and something growing on dat place winter and summer. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. During their pursuit of the escaped Negroes, the Cherokee Militia discovered the bodies of the two slave bounty hunters. In ever did see no money neither, until time of de War or a little before. Dey would come in de night and hamstring de horses and maybe set fire to de barn, and two of em named Joab Scarrel, and Tom Starr killed my pappy one night just before the War broke out. Those included in this collection all mention the Vanns. She had belonged to Joe Hildebrand and he was kin to old Steve Hildebrand dat owned de mill on Flint Creek up in de Going Snake District. (13) In order to determine when COLBERT began living with the Chickasaws, it was necessary to seek corroborating evidence to verify DONNE's statement. Pretty soon all de young Cherokee menfolks all gone off to de War, and de Pins was riding round all de time, and it ain't safe to be in dat part around Webber's Falls so old Master take us all to Fort Smith where they was a lot of Confederate soldiers. Sometimes she pull my hair. Mistress try to get de man to tell her who de negro belong to so she can buy him, but de man say he can't sell him and he take him on back to Texas wid a chain around his two ankles. My pappy run away one time, four or five years before I was born, mammy tell me, and at that time a whole lot of Cherokee slaves run off at once. He was the husband of Mary (Courtney) Hicks b. Lord yes su-er. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. There was great big wooden scaffolds. He wouldn't take us way off, but just for a ride. The 1860 Census records for Oklahoma (the last Census of the slavery era), indicates that the Cherokees held 4,600 Negro slaves; the Chickasaws owned 975; the Choctaws owned, 2,344; the Creeks held 1,532; and the Seminoles reportedly owned 500. Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his Negroes before I was born. In 1829 Clement Vann told General Coffee that he was 83 years old and had been in the Cherokee nation for fifty years.Therefore it is highly unlikely that he could have been the father of the Cherokee Chief, James Vann b 1766, well before Clement Vann entered the Cherokee nation. James Vann (abt.1766-1809) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree At the time that the interviews were conducted, the Vanns had been gone from Georgia for more than 100 yearsconsequently none of the slaves the Vanns owned in Spring Place were still alive. James Vann was born in 1766 (or 1768), near Spring Place, Georgia, the son of a white trader, Joseph Vann, and a Cherokee mother named War-li. Master Jim and Missus Jennie was good to their slaves. Family Tree Profile Timeline John B. If somebody bad sick he git de doctor right quick, and he don't let no negroes mess around wid no poultices and teas and sech things, like cupping-horns neither! You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. The women dressed in white, if they had a white dress to wear. Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. In Georgia, during the early 1800s, slaves owned by the Vann Family made the bricks and milled the lumber used to build the Vann House in Spring Place. The Vanns later relocated to Indian Territory, present-day Oklahoma. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. There was a bugler and someone callled the dances. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. The land was timbered and the oldest children clear the land, or start to do the work while Pappa go back to Tahlequah to get my sick mamma and the rest of the family. Joseph 'Rich Joe' Vann (1798 - 1844) - Genealogy When Marster Jim and Missus Jennie went away, the slaves would have a big dance in the arbor. My mother, grandmother, aunt Maria and cousin Clara, all worked in the big house. He didn't tell us children much about the War, except he said one time that he was in the Battle of Honey Springs in 1863 down near Elk Creek south of Fort Gibson. A town was laid out on his Hamilton Country farm which was called, Vanntown. Geni requires JavaScript! I don't know what dey done it for, only to be mean, and I guess they was drunk. Morris Sheppard was owned by a Cherokee named Joe Sheppard. Lord yes su-er. Robert and Mary Hicks were the parents of Nathaniel Hicks. Lord have mercy on us, yes. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. Unfortunately, this building was later destroyed during the American Civil War. -ga Vann, Delilah Amelia Mcnair (born Vann), Sarah "sallie" Vann Nicholson Or Buzzard Trapper (born Vann), Tacah To Kah Do Key, Oct 26 1844 - Ohio, Indiana, United States, Chief "crazy" James Ti-ka-lo-hi Clement Vann, Nancy Ann Vann (born Timberlake Brown). We had to get up early and comb our hair first thing. *Andrew Bell Cunningham, Chief for 17 days: Nov. 8-25, 1919; Edward M. Fry, Chief for 1 day: June 23, 1923; *Richard B. Choate, Chief for 1 day, 1925; *Charles J. In the morning we got up early, made a fire, and made a big pot of coffee. The big house was made of log and stone and had big mud fireplaces. There was Mr. Jim Collins, and Mr. Bell, and Mr. Dave Franklin, and Mr. Jim Sutton and Mr. Blackburn that lived around close to us and dey all had slaves. 1746, and died July 16, 1839 in Van Zant County, Texas. Dey come to de house one time when he was gone to Fort Smith and us children told dem he was at Honey Springs, but they knowed better and when he got home he said somebody shot at him and bushwhacked him all the way from Wilson's Rock to dem Wildhorse Mountains, but he run his horse like de devil was sitting on his tail and dey never did hit him. We had about twenty calves and I would take dem out and graze-em while some grown-up negro was grazing de cows so as to keep de cows milk. She had some land close to Catoosa and some down on Greenleaf Creek. Yes Lord Yes. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. Old Master and Mistress kept on asking me did de night riders persecute me any but dey never did. Everybody laugh and was happy. The following oral history narrative is from the The WPA Oklahoma Slave Narratives in the Library of Congress, edited by T. Lindsay Baker, Julie Philips Baker: Yes Sa. His pappy was old Captain "Rich Joe" Vann, and he had been dead ever since long before de War. Vinita was the closeset town to where I was born; when I get older seem like they call it "the junction" on account the rails cross there, but I never ride on the trains, just stay at home. My names' Lucinda Vann, I've been married twice but that don't make no difference. James Vann had several other wives and children. Some 3,500 interviews were conducted.
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